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Discussion #248: Jagdpanzer IV/48, Panzer IV/70 (V) and (A)

For this discussion we'll be talking about the Jagdpanzer IV tank destroyers of the German ground forces tree. There are three variants available in-game:

Jagdpanzer IV/48 (Sd.Kfz.162)

Armed with a 7.5 cm Pak 39 L/48, developed under the name Sturmgeschütz neuer Art mit 7.5 cm Pak L/48 auf Fahrgestell PzKpfw IV, with 769–784 produced in January 1944 – November 1944.

Panzer IV/70 (V) (Sd.Kfz.162/1)

One of two variants armed with the Pak 42 L/70 gun. The (V) stands for the designer, Vomag. The most produced version, with 930–940 built in August 1944 – April 1945. The L/70 7.5cm anti-tank gun could out-range opposing Allied tank weapons, and proved to be a formidable foe following its introduction late in World War II. The "Lang" (German for "long") in its name was added to distinguish it from its predecessor with the shorter L/48 cannon.

Panzer IV/70 (A) (Sd.Kfz.162/1) (Gift)

In order to send Pak 42 L/70 armed vehicles to the front as soon as possible, Hitler ordered an interim solution to speed up Nibelungenwerke's transition from Panzer IV production to Panzer IV/70 production. "A" stands for Alkett, a manufacturer of the StuG III, that was ordered to redesign the Jagdpanzer IV superstructure to be mounted onto a standard Panzer IV chassis. While the Vomag design used a modified chassis permitting a very low silhouette, mounting the superstructure onto the original Panzer IV chassis required additional vertical steel plates mounted onto the chassis to counter height differences. The resulting vehicle was about 40 cm taller and lacked the sharp edged nose of the Vomag variant. Only 278 were built by Nibelungenwerke from August 1944 to March 1945.

Useful links:

Jagdpanzer IV WT Wiki

Panzer IV/70 (V) WT Wiki

Panzer IV/70 (A) WT Wiki


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