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“Cosmetic only” was never stated

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Yeah this post isn't going to gain any traction but the 30 saying "COSMETIC ONLY BETHESDA?!" will.

I got curious and looked up the actual quote from Pete Hines so work with me here https://www.vgr.com/fallout-76-microtransactions-hines/ (From before 76 launch)

“If you don’t want to spend money in the Atomic shop for cosmetic stuff you don’t have to,” says Hines; “We give you a shitload of Atoms just for playing the game. Folks that want to spend money on whatever the hell it is because they don’t have enough Atoms, they can, but it’s not, ‘I’m now better playing against other players because I spent money.’ It’s not pay-to-win. And it’s not loot crates.”

The problem here is that he isn't saying cosmetic only, the internet just thinks if that anything that isn't P2W is automatically a cosmetic item. Literally every article website/youtube video started plastering "Atom shop cosmetic only" which is just taking misinterpreting what he said. Here is another quote

“All the content we ever put out for Fallout 76,” explains Hines; “all the DLC, all the post-launch stuff, is going to be free. That’s important. And to say, the Atomic Shop is cosmetic stuff. To make sure folks understand. Look, there’s a line. There are people who have crossed it, but we’re going to stay on the right side of it in terms of the things you can spend money on and how this stuff works and what you’re getting for your $60. That you know, when they put out new content or features or whatever, I’m getting that stuff for free. That feels right.”

Again, this isn't a statement that the store will only exclusively have cosmetic items, this is him acknowledging other store fronts giving players competitive edges because they spent money and that they would never let the store get to that point.

If anyone still thinks that these quotes aren't being misinterpreted hard core even Bethesda cements what the stance on this games atom shop is with there April 23rd patch notes

"When we originally announced the Atomic Shop last year, we said that it will not provide anything that offers a competitive advantage. We remain committed to that statement and take it into account when we evaluate every new item that we bring to the Shop, both now and in the future. While Repair Kits do offer a way to fix an item in the field, we feel you will find that they are a convenient option you can utilize during your adventures. If we find that Repair Kits do offer any sort of competitive advantage once they are available, we will make any changes necessary to ensure that advantage is removed."

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"Any competitive advantage" lines up with exactly what Pete Hines said in his original quotes.

Bethesda also had an article up https://fallout.bethesda.net/en/article/6eQmVlhbjlkX0GzGb7DB3j/inside-the-vault-looking-beyond-patch-8-april-4-2019

We read tons of feedback and suggestions from the Fallout 76 community, and Repair Kits were a popular request that we wanted to get into players’ hands. We also felt we could try out something new with these, both in-game and in the Atomic Shop. As we look to the future, we’re exploring ways we can bring other community-driven ideas to the game as well, such as refrigerators for C.A.M.P.s, ammo and food converters, and even the ability to send scrap to your stash without having to head home. Repair Kits are our first attempt at a utility item like this, and we plan to make adjustments based on your feedback, so we hope you’ll share your thoughts with us when they go live later this month.

These are player requests for the store and Bethesda was/is looking to add utility items to the store front. If they found the refrigerator or scrap bot were giving you a competitive edge, as far as that above quote is concerned, they would make adjustments or remove it as needed. We haven't hit that point yet.

The atom shop isn't going to hold Fallout 76 up off of only cosmetic items and you can refer to every free to play game as a reference, those games constantly have to add more incentives for players to buy things in addition to cosmetics.

Tldr: These new items aren't P2W and until they hit that point this outburst of anger about a quote no one from Bethesda ever stated is very misguided.

Bring on the downvotes dwellers.

Edit 1: https://twitter.com/ModishNouns/status/1032580594499289088

In response to on twitter "Will it be possible to buy non-cosmetic items, say, a legendary minigun, with microtransactions?"

Pete replied with "No, only cosmetic."

I don't think this counts as an official statement when compared to what he told journalists and Bethesdas articles confirming his statements. It's also possible he meant only cosmetic stuff for the minigun.

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