The following table shows how each weapon should be used with Shade’s Infiltrate. It lists which attack does the most boss damage and which attack is best at killing Rothelms. Certain weapons need additional properties to kill Rothelms. These calculations assume the attack hits the body from the front. Backstabbing or headshots will provide more damage.
Bosses have damage reduction. The lower number is how much damage the attack does to the boss with the reduction. The higher number is how much monster damage (without reduction) that the attack does. On Legend bosses have 2100 hp, with the Bile Troll having 1500 hp.
(What's new?: This version of the guide now includes the Infiltrate damage when using Strength pot. It gives guidance on Decanter vs Concoction. It also corrected the Spear's Infiltrate damage. It was too low before.)
This guide is a one of the Appendices that was recently updated in the Optimal Properties & Traits guide.
- Dual Daggers
- Sword & Dagger
- Dual Swords
All of these weapons are able to kill Rothelms without properties. Dual Dagger's heavy stab does the most boss damage while Dual Sword's heavy sweep is provides the least.
Decanter vs Concoction
Decanter (+50% duration) is superior to Concoction (tri-pot). The extra Infiltrate damage from Strength potion is smaller than the extra quantity of Infiltrate attacks Decanter provides.
Infiltrate Breakpoint table
|Weapon||Boss Attack||Boss Damage||Boss (no reduction)||Rothelm Attack||Rothelm Properties|
|Dual Dagger||Heavy Stab||426 (str: 563)||(2172)||Heavy Stab|
|Sword & Dagger||Heavy Stab||426 (str: 563)||(2172)||Heavy Sweep|
|Spear||Heavy Stab||345 (str: 401)||(1134.5)||Light Stab|
|Dual Sword||Heavy Sweep||300 (str: 350)||(994.5)||Heavy Sweep|
|2h Sword||Heavy Stab||212 (str: 245)||(431.25)||Heavy Stab||1|
|Glaive||Heavy Up||161 (str: 207)||(495)||Heavy Down||Grim + 1|
|1h Sword||Heavy Overhead||161 (str: 207)||(495)||Heavy Overhead||Grim + 2|
|1h Axe (DLC)||Heavy Attack||161 (str: 207)||(495)||Heavy Attack||Grim + 2|
The Dual Daggers are able to kill Rothelms with 0 Properties. It also has the best boss damage. Unlike the Sword & Dagger or Spear, accessing this anti-boss attack does not require missing a different attack. This makes the Dual Daggers the easiest to use weapon for Shade. Just be aware that its poor cleave will mean it will struggle with hordes.
Sword & Dagger
A flexible if awkward combination of the Dual Daggers and Dual Swords. Use the heavy stab against bosses and the heavy sweep against everything else. When fighting bosses try to miss with the heavy sweep and hit with the heavy stab.
The light stab attack will kill Rothelms with 0 Properties but the heavy sweep will not! When fighting bosses try to miss with the heavy sweep and hit with the heavy stab.
The boss damage is much lower than Dual Dagger (or Sword & Dagger), but it is still able to kill Rothelms with 0 Properties. Use the sweeps to clear hordes or groups of enemies.
It requires 1 Property (usually Power vs Chaos on the Charm) for the heavy stab attack to kill Rothelms. The 2h Sword is outclassed by the Dual Swords, which provides similar horde killing potential while doing much more boss damage.
It requires Hekarti's Bounty (15% Power from Grims) plus 1 Property for the Glaive to kill Rothelms. The glaive’s poor boss damage combined with its inability to easily kill Rothelms makes it a poor option for Shade. The Spear provides a light attack that is also able to kill Fanatics in one hit while having better boss damage and the ability to kill Rothelms.
It requires Hekarti's Bounty plus 2 Properties for the heavy attack to kill Rothelms. This is not worth it. The 1h Sword is outclassed by the Dual Swords, which provides similar horde killing potential while doing much more boss damage.
It requires Hekarti's Bounty plus 2 Properties for the heavy attack to kill Rothelms. This is not worth it. The boss damage is also poor. The Spear (if you want to kill Fanatics in one light attack) or Dual Daggers (if you want to kill armor) are better choices for Shade.
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