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A closer look (with pretty pictures) at the French DD/DL line (and a rant about the Tier X).

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To preface, all the armament listed here, unless stated, is from the ship's A-hull (except for Kléber at Tier X obviously). Additionally, I do not guarantee anything here to be 100% correct, all these are just gleamed from the preview footage and it is certain I may have missed an MG here or there or confused a gun type with another…

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II – Enseigne Gabolde ("Ensign Gabolde"), 1923

Named after ship-of-the-line ensign ("enseigne de vaisseau") Jean Gabolde.

In standard French tradition it was originally the third planned member of the 1913 Enseigne Roux-class of torpedo boats, until the outbreak of a World War halted her completion and she was only completed a decade later in 1923 to an altered design (Jean Bart and De Grasse send their greetings).

The alterations included improved engines, a larger bridge and a third main battery gun in the B-position.

Armament:

  • 3×1 – 100-mm/45 M1893
  • 2×2 – 550-mm torpedo launcher

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III – Fusilier ("Rifleman"), 192X

Named in the vein of early French torpedo boats after military posts (Fantassin – "Infantryman", Cavalier – "Cavalryman", Voltigeur – "Skirmisher", etc.).

An apparently paper-ship, at least I am not aware whatever plan she is based on or if she is designed solely by WG based on an intermediate what-if design (which I would assume).

For all intents and purposes a Gabolde v2.0 (or Roux v3.0) with one more gun and a more modern hull of following design.

Armament:

  • 4×1 – 100-mm/45 M1893
  • 2×2 – 550-mm torpedo launcher

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IV – Bourrasque ("Squall"), 1926

The Bourrasque-class was named after various winds, storms and similar (Tornade, Typhon, Tempête – "Tempest", etc.).

Participants of the original Dunkirk event Operation: Dynamo will probably recognize her as basically the Cyclone, available as the French destroyer for that event.

This is where the proper French DD line begins, with the mounting of the standard 130-mm caliber main battery guns and triple-tube launchers.

Armament:

  • 4×1 – 130-mm/40 M1919
  • 4×1 – 8-mm MG
  • 2×3 – 550-mm torpedo launcher

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V – Jaguar, 1925

The Jaguar-class was named after various wildcats (Lynx, Léopard, Tigre, etc.). A noticeable increase in length compared the previous design though with the accompanied addition of a fifth gun mount.

Armament:

  • 5×1 – 130-mm/40 M1919
  • 2×1 – 75-mm/50 M1922
  • 2×3 – 550-mm torpedo launcher

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VI – Guépard ("Cheetah"), 1929

The Guépard-class was named after either still the animal naming (Bison, Lion) or later sites of battles (Valmy, Verdun).

Here is where the split from more conventional caliber DDs to the French flavor of contre-torpilleur design starts to show with the introduction of the rather eccentric caliber 138.6-mm guns. Also, the introduction of "modern" automatic AA-guns.

Guépard was designated as Group A in a series of modern destroyer designs.

Armament:

  • 5×1 – 138.6-mm/40 M1923
  • 4×1 – 37-mm/50 M1925
  • 2×1 – 13.2-mm/76 M1929
  • 2×3 – 550-mm torpedo launcher

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VII – Vauquelin, 1933

Named after officer Jean Vauqelin. The Vauquelin-class was named after various important French naval figures (Kersaint: Admiral Armand de Kersaint, Maillé-Brézé: Admiral Jean Armand de Maillé-Brézé, etc.).

A follow-up (Group E) to the Aigle (Group C) in the contre-torpilleur series, the main difference being a changed arrangement of the torpedo tubes.

Compared to the Guépard she has slightly more modern gun mounts and the gradual introduction of the wing-mounted launcher design as opposed to the historical center-line mounts.

Armament:

  • 5×1 – 138.6-mm/40 M1927
  • 4×1 – 37-mm/50 M1925
  • 2×2 – 13.2-mm/76 M1929
  • 3×2 – 550-mm torpedo launcher

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VIII – Le Fantasque ("The Capricious"), 1935/1942

The Fantasque-class was named after various daring adjectives (L' Audacieux – "The Audacious", L' Indomptable – "The Indomitable", etc.).

The fast one. While Le Terrible set the record (45 kts) the class itself was still the fastest destroyer design for a long time at 42.7 kts.

The traditional three or four single-funnel silhouette made way for a sleeker grouped twin-funnel design and the gun mounts were now armed with a modern version of the 138.6-mm with a longer barrel.

She was later refit in the US with modern AA-guns of 20 and 40-mm.

Armament:

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  • 5×1 – 138.6-mm/50 M1929
  • 3×1 – 40-mm/56 Mk 3
  • 8×1 – 20-mm/70 Mk 4
  • 3×3 – 550-mm torpedo launcher

Judging by the way the model is set up, I don't think her B-hull will have the historical removed center-line torpedo launcher (was removed to make space for additional Oerlikons), but will instead keep it at the cost of two less 20-mm. Thus her suspected B-hull would amount to:

  • 5×1 – 138.6-mm/50 M1929
  • 1×4 – 40-mm/56
  • 2×1 – 40-mm/56 Mk 3
  • 8×1 – 20-mm/70 Mk 4
  • 3×3 – 550-mm torpedo launcher

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IX – Mogador, 1940/195X

Named after the French-African Morocco port city (nowadays known as "Essaouira"). The historical conclusion of the contre-torpilleur design of 1932.

Completed in 1938 with the same guns as the Fantasque-class but in twin mounts, the design was not a proper dual-gun turret but more of two single guns under one shield and did prove quite problematic with high mechanical failure rates and lower than expected rate of fire. Thus even though they had 3 guns more than the predecessor, the actual fire power was lower than hers, but thankfully in the game we won't have to factor in such problems (as much).

The torpedo launchers were finally mounted in exclusive wing-mounted arrangement, with a triple and a twin per side.

The A-hull is the never received anti-air upgrade that was planned for her with the two turreted twin 37-mm guns, same as seen on Alsace's A-hull.

Armament:

  • 4×2 – 138.6-mm/50 M1934
  • 2×2 – 37-mm/70 M1936
  • 4×1 – 37-mm/50 M1925
  • 2×3 – 550-mm torpedo launcher
  • 2×2 – 550-mm torpedo launcher

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Judging from the tech-tree icon, her B-hull will be a theoretical '50s refit with two twin 57-mm and several twin 20-mm guns:
  • 4×2 – 138.6-mm/50 M1934
  • 6×2 – 20-mm/70 Mk 20
  • 2×2 – 57-mm/60 M1951
  • 2×3 – 550-mm torpedo launcher
  • 2×2 – 550-mm torpedo launcher

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X – Kléber, 195X

Named after French general Jean-Baptiste Kléber. The planned Kléber-class was to be named after commanders during the French Revolution (Marceau: General François Séverin Marceau, Hoche: General Louis Lazare Hoche, etc.). The design was originally envisioned as a follow-up identical to the Mogador but with improved AA-guns due to the rising threat of aircraft dominance to surface ships. It was planned with two additional dual-purpose twin 100-mm turrets (as seen on Alsace's A-hull). The variant we see in game appears as a post-war finished version, with additional torpedo launchers.

Armament:

  • 4×2 – 138.6-mm/50
  • 3×2 – 57-mm/60 M1951
  • 4×3 – 550-mm torpedo launcher

Rant incoming:

In my personal opinion WG really dropped the ball here on this very unique opportunity to create an interesting ship.

Firstly it appears to keep the same guns and turrets as the Mogador, which are explicitly single-purpose, i.e. have no AA capabilities. That makes it the only Tier X DD with no dual-purpose battery, which makes it even weirder if you look at similar (not even post-war) Destroyer Leader designs such as Soviet Khabarovsk or the Italian Capitani Romani (which for your daily trivia, latter Attilio Regolo did end up in French service as reparations post-war) which have DP guns, or just look at post-war French ship modernizations such as De Grasse or Jean Bart which emphasized the heavy AA/DP focus, to keep those old guns, not even in a new turret just doesn't seem logical (or French). I personally expected them to either make-up a dual-purpose modernized variant of that gun/turret or slap on some other theoretical guns (such as the British 5.45-in DP guns on Vanguard as some what-if lend-lease or just take the 135-mm DP guns from the Attilio Regolo).

Secondly, the whole ship design in regards to superstructure seems oddly uninspired and with a lot of wasted space. I expected them to add a superstructure in the spirit of the T47
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(ex-Capitani Romani), which have all very similar angular, low profile, stretched forecastles, meanwhile WG's Kléber has some weird super-wide rounded bridge that at first looks like something from a Japanese destroyer, with a weird empty space between B-turret and bridge which just screams for a few 20-mm guns…

Likewise the choice to mount 4 triple launchers on this design just seems odd. Either four twins or two triples would seem more appropriate, instead they give it the same load-out as the "standard" DD Surcouf (which itself as a post-war DD has only two conventional launchers, its other two triple launchers are for anti-submarine torpedoes).

And finally we miss the most unique part of the original design, the two secondary DP mounts which supposedly were "refit" for the 57-mm gun space on the WG design. Granted, secondaries on a DD are more of a joke, but it is still an interesting and maybe occasionally hilarious quirk that is just entirely gone here.

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