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Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysis

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This is another follow-up to a project
noctyrnesaga - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysis/u/noctyrnesaga and I have been working on.

Symthic forums are dead (for now), so all FTK-related posts will be exclusively on reddit for now.

  • Beta Charts
  • Launch Charts
  • Overture Charts
  • TTK 0.5 Charts
  • Lightning Strikes Part I Charts

This measures the time to kill of every gun in the BFV in frames (assuming 60Hz, one frame = 16.66ms), using 100,000 samples of 15 round bursts across a variety of ranges. If a gun does not have 15 rounds in the magazine, it assumes a burst length equal to magazine size.

If you just want to see what weapons to use, skip to the bottom.

How to read the charts, and other notes:

  • The hitrater assumes perfect control of vertical recoil, aimed at center mass.
  • Each picture has four charts are concatenated into one. The top two charts are for aimed down sights fire, and the bottom two are for hipfire.
  • The left two charts measure the gun with full upgrades on the left side of the specialization tree (hipfire upgrades, rapid fire, etc.).
  • The right two charts measure the gun with full upgrades on the right side of the specialization tree (ADS accuracy upgrades, etc.).
  • FTK: Frames to kill. To get TTK (time to kill), just multiply numbers by 16.66. Represented in colors, designated on the right side.
  • E: Expected frames to kill. A value factoring in average time to kill and the probability of the 15 round burst actually killing the target.
  • U: Average frames to kill. A value that is the mean of all the instances where the gun actually killed.
  • Frequency: The number of times a gun killed, out of 100,000 (100K).
  • MMG (MG34, MG42) charts show zoomed bipod (ADS while bipoded) on the ADS charts, zoomed hipfire (hold RMB from the hip) on the hipfire charts. Unzoomed hipfire basically cannot kill at all, and is useless data.
  • Important note: Overture charts compared to launch are not 1:1 for hipfire. Because 4BTK was only 9m long at launch, the range axis on hipfire charts was set to 8m, 11m, 15m, etc. Now that 4BTK was increased to 10m, the range axis is now set back to 5m, 10m, 15m, etc.
  • I will now start bolding the links to the guns that received changes in the latest patch.

For more gun statistics and discussions, go to the new Symthic forums:

BFV Weapon Comparison Tool here

New Symthic Forums here

Charts:

Gun Beta Chart Launch Chart Overture Chart Lightning Strikes Chart Lightning Strikes Chart, Pt. III
AG m/42 N/A N/A https://i.imgur.com/QE5sAE7.png QE5sAE7 - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysis
https://i.imgur.com/QE5sAE7.png
QE5sAE7 - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysis
https://i.imgur.com/QE5sAE7.png
Autoloading 8 N/A EJbhwGW - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysishttps://imgur.com/EJbhwGW https://imgur.com/1cowvL5 https://imgur.com/1cowvL5 https://imgur.com/1cowvL5
Bren https://imgur.com/2BTDLu0 https://imgur.com/I4x0s9x https://imgur.com/ynDEhET https://imgur.com/ynDEhET https://imgur.com/ynDEhET
Darne M1922 N/A N/A N/A
https://i.imgur.com/ih0XD7X.png
ih0XD7X - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysis
https://i.imgur.com/ih0XD7X.png
Erma EMP UagtO3s - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysishttps://imgur.com/UagtO3s
https://imgur.com/P65GIVj
NVxE8mL - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysishttps://imgur.com/NVxE8mL
https://i.imgur.com/sPTC5V1r.png
sPTC5V1r - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysis
https://i.imgur.com/sPTC5V1r.png
FG42 hv8XeZK - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysishttps://imgur.com/hv8XeZK
https://imgur.com/WXnSfcj
QM1ujhg - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysis
https://imgur.com/QM1ujhg
QM1ujhg - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysis
https://imgur.com/QM1ujhg
QM1ujhg - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysis
https://imgur.com/QM1ujhg
Gewehr 1-5 N/A F0jPWkS - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysishttps://imgur.com/F0jPWkS https://imgur.com/o2JI0Pi https://imgur.com/o2JI0Pi
https://i.imgur.com/7ejFTeK.png
Gewehr 43 hSZE0r0 - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysishttps://imgur.com/hSZE0r0 https://imgur.com/2YG2b4H https://imgur.com/t9v39EZ https://imgur.com/t9v39EZ https://imgur.com/t9v39EZ
KE7 https://imgur.com/jIM6NY1 https://imgur.com/y7k4olv https://imgur.com/iTp0Iul https://imgur.com/iTp0Iul
https://i.imgur.com/VpaDlBo.png
Lewis Gun N/A Etq5v99 - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysishttps://imgur.com/Etq5v99 https://imgur.com/Iyw4QiC https://imgur.com/Iyw4QiC https://imgur.com/Iyw4QiC
M1 Carbine https://imgur.com/kRbNiOQ https://imgur.com/hwy8vVk
https://imgur.com/ZWzA4Yg
ZWzA4Yg - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysis
https://imgur.com/ZWzA4Yg
ZWzA4Yg - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysis
https://imgur.com/ZWzA4Yg
M1907 N/A OmFFjMw - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysishttps://imgur.com/OmFFjMw https://imgur.com/KPRcGyA https://imgur.com/KPRcGyA https://imgur.com/KPRcGyA
M1928A1 (Thompson) N/A
https://imgur.com/muyW4JP
FigaqOR - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysishttps://imgur.com/FigaqOR
https://i.imgur.com/uw8e3YR.png
uw8e3YR - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysis
https://i.imgur.com/uw8e3YR.png
MAS-44 N/A N/A N/A FuMhSIi - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysis
https://i.imgur.com/FuMhSIi.png
wNPymTL - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysis
https://i.imgur.com/wNPymTL.png
MG34 N/A hNII5Bp - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysis
https://imgur.com/hNII5Bp
cy5bck4 - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysishttps://imgur.com/cy5bck4 https://imgur.com/cy5bck4 https://imgur.com/cy5bck4
MG42 N/A https://imgur.com/5rYDgXU https://imgur.com/2ioeoIo https://imgur.com/2ioeoIo https://imgur.com/2ioeoIo
MP28 N/A https://imgur.com/7yfB4dt https://imgur.com/f2ybmaH
https://i.imgur.com/WX7lIWc.png
WX7lIWc - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysis
https://i.imgur.com/WX7lIWc.png
MP34 N/A Z0CEFjy - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysishttps://imgur.com/Z0CEFjy https://imgur.com/6e7snKk
https://i.imgur.com/9wxk39i.png
9wxk39i - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysis
https://i.imgur.com/9wxk39i.png
MP40 fbAIuT4 - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysishttps://imgur.com/fbAIuT4 https://imgur.com/QuX0zXz https://imgur.com/RimYRJV
https://i.imgur.com/T3Kursc.png
T3Kursc - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysis
https://i.imgur.com/T3Kursc.png
Ribeyrolles M1918 N/A N/A 41P0ioK - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysishttps://imgur.com/41P0ioK https://imgur.com/41P0ioK https://imgur.com/41P0ioK
RSC 1917 N/A https://imgur.com/x5GoAXu
https://imgur.com/HpY4uVG
HpY4uVG - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysis
https://imgur.com/HpY4uVG
HpY4uVG - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysis
https://imgur.com/HpY4uVG
Selbstlader 1916 N/A PssXLMw - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysishttps://imgur.com/PssXLMw https://imgur.com/B6hcJHy https://imgur.com/B6hcJHy https://imgur.com/B6hcJHy
Sten https://imgur.com/7qJxjXd https://imgur.com/MMtl2Py
https://imgur.com/sUxOc8G
jmycKXY - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysis
https://i.imgur.com/jmycKXY.png
jmycKXY - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysis
https://i.imgur.com/jmycKXY.png
Sturmgewehr 1-5 N/A tq3oBWl - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysishttps://imgur.com/tq3oBWl https://imgur.com/fpvUOnv https://imgur.com/fpvUOnv https://imgur.com/fpvUOnv
StG-44
https://imgur.com/DYHWgSN
BPIGegg - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysis
https://imgur.com/BPIGegg
dKz9KL0 - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysishttps://imgur.com/dKz9KL0 https://imgur.com/dKz9KL0 https://imgur.com/dKz9KL0
Suomi https://imgur.com/gDzxcOv https://imgur.com/2lkRqVb https://imgur.com/2NtzZs9
https://i.imgur.com/ArqPHbi.png
ArqPHbi - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysis
https://i.imgur.com/ArqPHbi.png
Turner SMLE xbaPSB7 - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysishttps://imgur.com/xbaPSB7
https://imgur.com/jdSs1KG
VXOfrN4 - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysishttps://imgur.com/VXOfrN4 https://imgur.com/VXOfrN4
https://i.imgur.com/qnaDWFE.png
Vickers K (VGO) N/A N/A uAnePmv - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysis
https://i.imgur.com/uAnePmv
uAnePmv - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysis
https://i.imgur.com/uAnePmv.png
uAnePmv - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysis
https://i.imgur.com/uAnePmv.png
ZH-29 xc3Gb8J - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysis
https://imgur.com/xc3Gb8J
f0XiLuD - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysishttps://imgur.com/f0XiLuD https://imgur.com/TSAupvO https://imgur.com/TSAupvO https://imgur.com/TSAupvO
ZK-383 N/A N/A N/A
https://i.imgur.com/JPYlSLd.png
vuF3mRR - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysis
https://i.imgur.com/vuF3mRR.png

Personal thoughts and opinions about BFV guns, based off the Overture update:

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Most of my thoughts from my previous posts still stand.

  • The ZK-383 and KE7 received completely unwarranted nerfs to their horizontal recoil.
  • Before this patch, the ZK-383 (with Light Bolt) was a more accurate Thompson with a bipod and without a large magazine or a possible hipfire buff, but now, it basically requires barrel bedding to remain relevant. Without barrel bedding, it's just a worse Thompson that does pretty much everything worse. Only use the ZK-383 with the Extended Magazine path now, use the Thompson instead of the Light Bolt path. Even when considering what the bipod brings to the table, I don't think the increase in horizontal recoil was necessary, given the very situational value of the bipod compared to the utility a large magazine and the hipfire upgrade the Thompson offers.
  • The KE7 was already a versatility pick that clearly lost to the FG42 from close-medium and the Bren at medium-long range. An additional nerf was unneeded. While a case can be made for a nerf to its ease of use, a nerf to its horizontal recoil was unneeded. The nerf isn't incredibly impactful, but it certainly wasn't super necessary.
  • The Gewehr 1-5 received a nerf to its headshot ability (can only HS + BS to 10m now) and its max damage (40 to 36 damage), so the charts will not show any changes. It is still very good.
  • The MAS-44 and Turner had their maximum damages decreased (45 to 40 damage), and the MAS-44 had its headshot ability decreased to match the Turner (HS + BS from 35 to 30m), so charts will not show any changes. They are still very good.

My recommended picks:

A ever-fluctuating ranking list by me and
Prizyms - Battlefield V Lightning Strikes: Part III Frames-to-Kill (Time-to-Kill) Charts and Analysis/u/Prizyms will be
here (current WIP with the new update).

Medic:

  • MP34 LRRR for ranged use
  • Suomi RLLR for maximum 1v1 cancer
  • MP28 RLLL for bigmag hipfire
  • No versatility pick until the Lanchester RRRR/Patchett RRRR drop

Support:

  • FG42 LRRR for assault rifle use
  • Bren RRRR for ranged use
  • Lewis Gun LRRR for bigmag pubstomping
  • MG42 RLLR for dolphin diving on people
  • MG34 RRRR for 200m rubble camping
  • Chauchat RRRL when it drops to do everything

Assault (almost every weapon is excellent):

  • MAS-44 LLLL for all-around use
  • Turner LLLR for destroying groups
  • AG m/42 LLLR for shooting people in the face at all ranges
  • 1907 RLLR for spraying people to 50m
  • 1916 RLLR for supine prone camping in bushes
  • M1A1 RLLL instead of non-1907 assault rifles

Scout:

  • 1906 LLLR for actually being useful as a scout
  • Model 8 RLLR for aggressive play
  • Krag LLLR if you're Stodeh

Feel free to ask me, /u/Prizyms (or maybe /u/noctyrnesaga) about specialization tree and weapon balance or the charts.

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