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some thoughts from a hunter that has failed alatreon 100 times in a row

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WARNING: LONG READ AHEAD. I would stick a tl;dr down there, but if you're really struggling against alatreon, I think this might be a good read. Well that, and I don't want to have spent like an hour typing up a borderline essay just for someone who might need that information to skip it.

Anyway, so I've finally managed to snag myself my first alatreon kill (solo, no less!), and just wanted to share some thoughts for those of you out there that might be still struggling.

First things first, this hunt is probably one the best, if not the best fights I've experienced in this game to date. This is a fucked up monster, and I mean that in the best way possible. Through your first few attempts, you will get shafted by alatreon, there's just no avoiding it. Especially if you go in blind. There's just so many mechanics and moving parts that there's no way you can expect a newcomer to go in with any semblance of success. It's the understanding of those mechanics, and realizing that yes, you will have to use every tool at your disposal to eke out a victory that makes this fight so rewarding to finally not just overcome, but truly master.

I think what most people are having trouble when it comes to alatreon boils down to one of two problems:

  • Not respecting his mechanics and/or your own mechanics as a hunter
  • Trying to play via sos flares

I'll cover that second point first, since it's actually what I ultimately found to be the biggest flaw of this fight so far.

Alatreon just doesn't work with the sos flare mechanic. As I said before, there's far too many mechanics at play here, as well as a much larger risk due to the nature of playing with more people. If you're playing with other people, communication is key. Whether this be through a discord call or simply discussing some strategy with your party in the message window before a hunt, this monster isn't just something you can try to brute force.

Everyone needs to be on the same page here, or at the very least understand the mechanics of the fight to a proficient degree. If one person doesn't equip the proper element weapon or doesn't attack the proper hitzones to rack up their elemental damage, the entire party has to pick up that slack, or risk being wiped. Same goes for horn breaks; if it doesn't happen, then your weapons become borderline useless as alatreon switches elements to be immune/resistant to the ones you have equipped. There's simply no way to guarantee that everyone that joins the hunt will know these things, which makes sos flares a big coin flip as to:

A) Whether or not that hunter understands the mechanics of the fight

B) Whether or not that hunter understands the monster's attacks, and can dodge them properly as to not use up the carts too quickly

Ultimately, it's the hunter's responsibility to learn all of this information, but what's important to understand is that's not necessarily a bad thing.

This leads me to that first point of issue from earlier, respecting alatreon's mechanics as well as your own. Now, what do I mean by that? Essentially, knowing what each of alatreon's moves do, how to best avoid them, which ones to capitalize on, as well as using your own tools at the proper times to make the fight easier on yourself. Here's a few examples of lessons I've learned during my time fighting this monster.

Example 1: I didn't know how to flinch shot a monster for the longest time. I knew what it was in theory, but would never initiate one myself. This fight forced me to learn that mechanic, as well as what openings to look for in order to knock the monster down, give myself some time to damage/break the horns, as well as deal a large amount of damage to the monster, all in one fell swoop.

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Example 2: Knowing how to dodge each attack properly. This one might seem pretty obvious, but I cannot stress how important staying active in this fight is. Every time you get hit, that's more time you spend knocked down, getting up, running away, and healing. You also risk either getting stunned or just being killed outright by a follow-up move. By understanding that avoiding damage entirely is sometimes better than being greedy for damage and getting hit, you make the fight a lot safer for both yourself and your teammates.

Example 3: Bringing support items. Eventually, no matter how good you are at dodging, you will get hit. when this happens to either you or a teammate, you can greatly reduce the amount of downtime by simply using a lifepowder. This also means managing your team's health to see who needs to be topped off. If you're really dedicated, you might also consider bringing crafting ingredients for healing times or even running a wide range build. Remember: less faints = less downtime = more damage = good times for everyone (well, maybe except for alatreon).

Example 4: Properly building for elemental damage, and having a proper build in general. This one is probably less important if you plan to play in a group, but is nonetheless a very helpful thing to have. When I first started fighting alatreon, I had nothing more than my simple velkhana armor set with a non-augmented weapon. Needless to say, I got rekt. So I switched it up to a water element weapon after hearing that it would be effective even when you failed to break the horns and let him switch elements. I had about 300 element (using a safi insect glaive with 2 Element up V augments), which was alright, but ultimately suboptimal.

I eventually learned that breaking horns was a vital mechanic to the fight, and that you really shouldn't be letting alatreon switch elements in the first place. This led to me switching an ice weapon (safi insect glaive with 2 Element up V and 1 Element up VI), as well as building for Ice Attack Lv 6, which essentially more than doubled the amount of elemental damage I would be doing to the monster, thus making it that much easier to hit the dps check. I also ditched other skills in my build that I knew wouldn't be as effective against alatreon, such a flinch free/earplugs combo, speed eating, and recovery up, which all ate up a lot of decoration slots. This let me slot in much more effective skills such as evade window, divine blessing, ice attack, and other such things.

Now, do you need to completely rearrange and optimize your entire build to counter alatreon? No. Does it help you in the long run? Yes. I'd also argue that having to take a step back from continually ramming my face into the monster to rethink my build and strategy against alatreon was at least half the fun of figuring my way around this fight.

If you've made it this far, I would congratulate you, but I'd imagine you're more tired than anything else, so I'll just end with this:

No, this monster is not impossible. No, he's not broken or unfair. No, you don't just suck. And yes, you can learn, and eventually even master this monster

Echoing my sentiments from before, this fight is one of the best experiences I've had with this game, and after reading through all this, I hope you can understand why. Simply put, this monster is complicated, he demands respect, and he will kick your ass up and down the gathering hall until you set your pride aside to sit down and learn.

This monster is a challenge, and I'd wager that's one of the main reasons why most of us play this game in the first place. To feel that adrenaline rush that comes from having to focus on something this hard for a long period of time. To get knocked down, over and over again. To take a break, a breather to To eventually learn from your mistakes, brush off the dust, and get right back up again to take up the challenge once again.

That's what it means to be a hunter.

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